Welcome Florence!

Welcome to Florence born 14:10 on 13 Nov 2020 weighing 6lb 12oz. (3.06 kg) Congratulations to Harriet and Harry. 

Bill Palmer RIP

 

I just got this from cousin Howard Palmer 
"I am afraid to have to announce that my father, WAP (William/Bill) died this morning, 31/10/20 after a short illness. Cherry is bereft, but bearing up well and in good health. Dad had been hale and hearty, if a little immobile, until about 3 weeks ago when he became rather weak and eventually chair and bed-bound for the last 10 days or so. He was 95 and a bit, so an excellent innings.

Talking of which, he once played in the Sedlescombe match when I was 13 (and he was 42) and opened the innings with Trevor. I outlasted Trevor and Mike sent WAP in to take the number 3 slot at the other end. He hadn’t played cricket probably since he was 13 and was promptly out first ball!

Happy memories."

Bill Palmer married Granny's sister Cherry. The photos were taken between 1967 and 1969. The one at the top right is almost certainly just before Bill got his duck. Unless I am mistaken, Bill was Sherriff of Berkshire and scion of the great biscuit makers Huntley and Palmers.

Jacobs farm photo albums: 1969 Nov - 1973 Jul JBK


Jacobs farm photo albums: 1969 Nov - 1973 Jul JBK mostly by Granny

People

Lady Dot Keeling
Barbar (Barbara Gibbs)
Grandpa, Granny, Robert, Trevor, George, Simon, David, Tom, Jim, Paul
Gibbs's: Emma, Fanny
Hudsons: Christopher, Kate, Alexander
Palmers: Howard, John
Keelings: Johnny, Jocelyn, Bill; Mark, Nick Crean
Keelings: Bri Magdeliza 
Seitz's: Cally, Herbert, Nico

Gardiner Hills: Peter, Sue, Alice, Jane
Gaynors: Paddy, John, Cathy, Pat
Mash, Juliet Sturridge, Lars Backlund, Mary, Dom Caldecott, Simon Greenwood, Monika Heslmunte; Synove (Synøve) Lund; Harry Eddis; Barry and Val Sweatman; Mr Dumaresq; Anno Ainslie; Roger and Anne Field; Mr and Mrs Curry; June and Geoff Williams; Sheila and Harry King; Val, Tom, June Scruby; Jamie Petri; Cresta Norris; Sue Rowe; David Roberts; Caroline Schofield; Canal du Midi

Pony: Coco

Places

Lake Windermere, Davos, Sedlescombe, The Oast House, Hurst House, Eton, Zermatt, Dolphins, Venice, 11 Albert Place, Pollurrian Cornwall, Jacobs Farm (Oct 30 1971), Ladycross, Ampleforth

Includes
Fishing with trammel net.
The move in to Jacobs and some amateur building there.

See all 59 pages: Click here.

Jacobs farm photo albums: 1967 Jan - 1969 Aug JBK

1967
Jacobs farm photo albums: 1967 Jan - 1969 Aug mostly by Granny

People
Keelings
Dot, Jack (Grandpa's parents), Ruvé (Dot's Sister)
Johnny (Grandpa's brother), Jocelyn Keeling, Mark, Nick Crean, John, Bill Keeling
Granny, Grandpa, Robert, Trevor, George, Simon, David Tom, Jim, Paul
Brian (Grandpa's brother), Sara, Patrick 
Seitz: Cally (Grandpa's sister), Herbert, Nico

Barbar and descendants
Gibbs: David Gibbs and an invisible Geraldine Schwarz(?)
Hudson: Loveday, Martin , Cathryn, Alexander
Palmer: Cherry, Bill, Serena, Alexandra, Howard, John 

1969
Hely-Hutchinson: Maria, Henry, Nicholas, Colin 
Eddis: Mary, Francis, Christopher, Dana, Samantha 
Gardner-Hill: Peter, Sue, Jane, Alice 
Backlund: Ingela, Alice, Lars
Sabina Gaynor
David Petri
Lorna Stewart-Wilson

Nannies: Glenda, Peggy, Val, Sarah Burnays, Winnie, 
Gardners: Cecil, Hodsoll
Dawes the butler

Places
Albert Place, Beaulieu, Davos, Dolphins, Egypt, Hadrian's Wall, Hurst House, Medway canal, Oast House, Sedlescombe cricket pitch, Sweden, Zip wire at Hurst pool

1967

Cecilia Coco Broom and Phoebe Joyce Broom

Rich with Cecilia and Phoebe
Congratulations! Identical twins Cecilia Coco Broom and Phoebe Joyce Broom born to Lizzie and Rich on 30 May 2020.

Monty Michael Keeling Crompton

Monty
Congratulations! Monty Michael Keeling Crompton born to Kate and Will on 22 May 2020. Kate has added Keeling to her forenames and all her children's.

Gibbs Family Tree 1799-1940

Simon sent me (George) some fascinating information on the Gibbs family tree. My Mum, Jenifer, was of course a Gibbs and she is right at the bottom of it. There are two family trees: Gibbs going back to 1799 and Ladd / Coffin going back to 1613 and including the revolutionary Thomas Cushing; a script written by my grandfather Arthur Gibbs which follows and a photo of his mother Eliza (née Ladd) from about 1905. I have added some notes at the end.
Gibbs family tree. Click to enlarge

Main characters in the script are 

(1) George Gibbs (adult in 1799)
(2) George Gibbs 1802-1879
(6) Annie Dafforne Gibbs 1841-1924
(7) George Gibbs ~1842-1910
(8) John Gibbs ~1842-1909
(9) Ellen Sarah Gibbs 1843-1930
(10) Alice Gibbs 1845-1924
(3) John Gibbs ~1805-1880
(4) Elizabeth (née Gibbs) Goulston ~b. 1808
(11) Susanah Brewer 1800-after 1840
(22) Susanna Maria Bolger b. late 1700s
(25) Alcina Brewer b. ~1804
(26) Edwin J.Brewer b. ~1803
(14) William Bolger Gibbs 1834-1925
(27) Elizabeth Nutting (Grandma Gibbs) 1835-1898
(37) John Nutting b. ~1810
(15) Elizabeth Gibbs b. 1836
(16) Mary Gibbs b. 1839
(18) Emily Gibbs b. 1841
(29) William Gibbs 1862-1944
(30) Annie Christina ~1864-1937
(31) Emily Mary b. 1866
(39) Margaret Elizabeth b. 1898
(40) Cecily Bucknall b. 1899
(32) Arthur Gibbs 1867
(33) Alice Gaskell (née Gibbs) b. 1869
(45) Florence Jessie Gibbs b. 1870s
(46) George Francis Gibbs b. 1870s
(47) Alice Maud Gibbs b. 1870s
(48) Edith Mabel Gibbs b.1879
The Gibbs Family and the Stock Exchange

(1) George Gibbs (adult in 1799)

(1) George Gibbs married (5) Sarah Mitchell and had children (2) George (3) John (4) Elizabeth. (4A) Henry (4B) MARIA
In the Directory of 1799 he is described at "George Gibbs, Haberdasher 42 Whitechapel Road." In the Disco of 1811, he is described as "George Gibbs, Laceman and Haberdasher at the same address. In the 1816 and 1815 Directory is no longer mentioned. Presumably, therefore, he was either dead at that date, or had left Whitechapel. (letter from College of Arms May 16 1939 Ref no 1241 signed P.W. Kerr)

(2) George Gibbs 1802-1879

(2) George Gibbs married Anna Dafforne (born , February 21st, 1813 died 24 Nov. 1882) and had children:
(6) Annie Dafforne.
(7) George.
(8) John.
(9) Ellen Sarah.
(10) Alice.
He was a Member of the Stock Exchange 1836-1879, the firm being known as George Gibbs & Son, jobbers in the Consols Market. In 1850 he lived at 6, St.Mary's Road, Peckham, (or Camberwell) and in 1856 at No. 20, St. Mary's Road. From 1857 to 1864 his address was Stoke Newington (perhaps the same as the following) and his other addresses were:
1864 to 1871 11 , Amherst Villas, Amherst Road, Hackney Downs (or Shacklewell)
1873/74 to 1877/78 7, Mitford Villas, Amherst Road.
1877/78 215, Amherst Road.
1878/79 5, Evering Road, Upper Clapton (or Hackney)
He was born on September 15th, 1802, at "Roadside" and baptized on October 17th,1802, at St. Mary's Church, Whitechapel. He died February 17th, 1879, aged 76, at 5, Evering Road, Upper Clapton, and left about £20,000.

From all accounts he was a bad-tempered bully. (32) Arthur Gibbs senior writes: "we never saw
any thing of him..... he was a bad tempered man and all his children were crushed and nervous and pale wrecks", and Aunt Alice Gaskell writes: "I believe their father was a tyrant and used to make the family move every three years".

(6) Annie Dafforne Gibbs 1841-1924

(6) Annie Dafforne Gibbs was born on May 7th, 1841, at 16, Marlborough Road, old Kent Road, and died December 13th, 1924. Aunt Alice Gaskell writes: "I met all three sisters, Annie, Alice and Ellen at Reigate. Charming, delicate and old world".

(7) George Gibbs ~1842-1910

(7) George Gibbs junior was a Member of the Stock Exchange 1868-1884. His Addresses were:
1878/79 - 1880/81 ...     5, Evering Road, Upper Clapton.
1881/82 - 1883/84 … 240, Evering Road.
Uncle William Gibbs remembers him as a pale, unhealthy man. He died on February 2nd, 1910, at The Shrubbery, South Park, Reigate.

(8) John Gibbs ~1842-1909

(8) John Gibbs went to Australia, no good . He married Janet Craig, who died in 1905. He died December 14th, 1909, but I do not know if this happened in Australia or England. His daughter, Edith Mabel , was with him. The following was his family:
(44) John, who died as a baby.
(45) Florence Jessie.
(46) George Francis.
(47) Alice Maud.
(48) Edith Mabel, born 1879.
(49) Percy Edward died 1912 in a lift accident in the City.

(9) Ellen Sarah Gibbs 1843-1930

(9) Ellen Sarah Gibbs, last survivor of the family of George Gibbs of Upper Clapton, Middlesex, was born on June 11th, 1843, at 16, Marlborough Road, old Kent Road, She died February 12th, 1930, aged 86 at her home The Shrubbery, South Park, Reigate, and is buried at Highgate Old Cemetery.

(10) Alice Gibbs 1845-1924

(10) Alice Gibbs was born June 30th, 1845, at 10, Marlborough Terrace, Old Kent Road, and died September 15th, 1924.

(3) John Gibbs ~1805-1880

(3) John Gibbs was born in 1805 or 1806 at "Roadside" and was baptized on February 16th, 1806, at St.Mary's Church, Whitechapel. He married (11) Susannah (spelling in 1851 Census) Brewer (born 1800 at Shoreditch, Middlesex) and had issue:-
(12) John Brewer, born at Kingsland, Middlesex.
(13) Susan. (?)
(14) William Bolger, born 1834.
(15) Elizabeth, born 1836.
(16) Mary, born 1839.
(17) George. (?)
(18) Emily, born 1841.
(19) Edwin G born, 1843.
Drake Jan Parton searched years 1824 to 1830 inclusive at Whitechapel, the Hackney and Shoreditch for marriage of John, but no success. College of Arms search see letter of May 20. 1938. Ref 1241
Secondly, he married his housekeeper (20) Harriet Richards, but had no children by her. She died at Norbiton on December 16th, 1912.

He was very musical and used to make church organs and pianos, living at 1, Bowyer Place, Walworth Road, Camberwell, but he was practically put out of business by Broadwoods. He died September 15th, 1880, at 1, Crescent Villas, Crescent Road, Norbiton.

(4) Elizabeth (née Gibbs) Goulston ~1808-????

(4) Elizabeth married Joseph Goulston of Peckham Rye, an oiled silk manufacturer in the old Kent Road. He made his fortune out of balloons during the Crimean War. They had a son, Arthur Goulston, who married Jane Fuller. Arthur Goulston had a son, Arthur Goulston junior, who lived at Peckham Rye, became a doctor, married and went to live at Heavitree, near Exeter.

(4A) Henry. Baptized May 8. 1808. St Mary's Whitechapel
(4B) MARIA . Baptized Nov. 12. 1809 at St Mary's Whitechapel

(11) Susanah Brewer 1800-after 1840

(11) Susanah Brewer (born 1800) was the daughter of (21) William Brewer (born about 1770) who married (22) Susanna Maria Bolger. William Brewer's father was of the firm of Brewer and Smith, very expert mould makers, who used to make the metal frames for the watermarks on the Bank of England notes, supplying these frames to Portals from before 1793 until 1863.

(22) Susanna Maria Bolger b. late 1700s

(22) Susanna Maria Bolger was the daughter of (23) Dr. Bolger of Gravesend and Miss Godfrey Faussett of Nackington, near Canterbury.

(25) Alcina Brewer b. ~1804

(25) Alcina Brewer was the daughter of (21) William Brewer and married, firstly, John D'Oyley
and, secondly, a man called Stevens.

(26) Edwin J.Brewer b. ~1803

(26) Edwin J.Brewer son of (21) William Brewer was a Member of the Stock Exchange from 1825 to 1847. He lived at North Brixton and was in the office of his uncle (2) George Gibbs. [This seems to mean that his sister Susanah Brewer (11) married her uncle John Gibbs (3). He then married his housekeeper.]

(14) WILLIAM BOLGER GIBBS 1834-1925

(14) WILLIAM BOLGER GIBBS was the son of (3) John Gibbs. He was born May 10th, 1834, at Bowyer Place, Camberwell and died August 16th, 1925, at his home Thornton, Beulah Hill, Upper Norwood, London, S.E., being buried in West Norwood Cemetery in the same grave as his wife and son (36) Godfrey Faussett Gibbs. He left about £90,000. On April 4th, 1860, he was married to (27) Elizabeth Nutting at St.Mark's, Kennington, by the Rev.Charles Hodgson and had issue:
(28) Elizabeth Nutting born 1860 or 1861 died January 22nd, 1935, "Aunt Lizzie".
(29) William born August 15th, 1862.
(30) Annie Christina died 1937.
(31) Emily Mary born 1866.
(32) ARTHUR born April 27th, 1867.
(33) Alice born September 29th, 1869.
(34) Edith Agnes died 1932.
(35) Marian.
(36) Godfrey Faussett born 1878 died 1899.

He entered his Uncle's (2 George Gibbs) office in 1849 and became a Member of the Stock Exchange in 1855 when he was 21 years old. He left his uncle after a short time and jobbed on his own in the Consols Market in such stocks as Red Sea Annuities, Navy Fives, New and Reduced, Cornish Mines.

In the year 1869- 70 he went into partnership with R.E.Tatham, forming the firm of Gibbs and
Tatham. He lived at the following addresses:
1851-60 ... 1, Bowyer Place, Camberwell.
1860-64 ... Portland Terrace, Clapham Road.
1865-72 ... 5, Rock Terrace, Talfourd Road, Camberwell (or Peckham)
1872-76 ... 13, The Gardens, Peckham Rye.
1877-90 ... Medina Villa, Knights Hill, Norwood.
1890-91 ... Moved to Thornton, Beulah Hill, Upper Norwood.
In his early days he used to ride to the City from Camberwell, and it is interesting to recall that in a book of Rules of the Stock Exchange dated 1848, which he had in his possession, Rule No. 2 read "Members must remove their spurs before entering the Stock Exchange."

He was a man with an extremely able and scientific brain, being greatly interested, for instance, in the theory of music (counterpoint), astronomy (he had a large telescope in his garden at Thornton), botany, microscopes, polariscopes, spectroscopes. I have one of his microscopes, also his gold watch with chronometer works. He was a great traveller and on one occasion persuaded the Captain of the ship to go a long way off his course so that a better view of an eclipse of the sun might be obtained.

I remember that he had a minute speck of radium which we were allowed to see as a great treat, but the room had to be darkened for several minutes before our eyes could see the tiny sparkle. The heavy brass spinning top for demonstrating the mixing of coloured discs and patterns was given to me by him.

His spirit was undaunted even near the end of his life when he was becoming infirm. He was
forbidden to leave his study, but was discovered crawling up the stairs on his hands and knees. My boyhood memories of him include: two boiled eggs for breakfast, a gooseberry tart on his birthday, unfailing punctuality, the snuffling noise at the back of his throat he would always make and boots with square toes. He was a small man, with light blue eyes.

(27) Elizabeth Nutting (Grandma Gibbs) 1835-1898

(27) Elizabeth Nutting (Grandma Gibbs) daughter of (37) John Nutting, was born at 6.30 a.m. on September 21st, 1835, and was christened at St. Mark's Church, Kennington, November 6th, 1835. She died in 1898 and is buried in West Norwood Cemetery.

(37) John Nutting b. ~1810

(37) John Nutting of Winterslow Place, Vassall Road, Brixton, married Ann Daunt of Kinsale, County Cork (Ann Daunt's mother was Anna Dennis) and had issue (27) Elizabeth, (38) John Daunt born December 13th, 1830, (39) Ann born September 16th, 1832, all christened at St. Mark's Church, Kennington, He was head clerk to a leather merchant in Bermondsey.

(15) Elizabeth Gibbs b. 1836

(15) Elizabeth Gibbs daughter of (3) John Gibbs married Charles Nottingham, a musician, and had issue Wilson, a wrong 'un, and Bertha who married a man named Poole.

(16) Mary Gibbs b. 1839

(16) Mary Gibbs daughter of (3) John Gibbs married Stanley Jones, a wrong 'un. Had no children.

(18) Emily Gibbs b. 1841

(18) Emily Gibbs daughter of (3) John Gibbs married Albert Adams, an artist, and had no children.

(29) William Gibbs 1862-1944

(29) William Gibbs eldest son of (14) William Bolger Gibbs. Born August 15th, 1862, at Portland Terrace, Clapham Road. Became Member of the Stock Exchange in 1883, joining his father's firm, Gibbs and Ta than. Godfather to Loveday Catherine Gibbs.
Died Feb. 24 1944, in a bus queue at Upper-Norwood, on his way to the City. It was a very cold morning and he had spent some of the previous night in an air raid shelter. He left £151,000

(30) Annie Christina ~1864-1937

(30) Annie Christina, daughter of (14) William Bolger Gibbs. Married Stenton Covington of the Westminster Fire Office, who did a great deal in raising money to buy land to be kept in trust for the nation. Covington Way, S.W.16., is named after him as this borders Norwood Grove Recreation Ground which he was instrumental in buying. He lived at The Lodge, Gibson's Hill, S.E.19, and had peacocks in his garden.

(31) Emily Mary b. 1866

(31) Emily Mary, daughter of (14) William Bolger Gibbs, born in 1866, married William Bucknall, an architect, lived at 45,Chestnut Road, S.E.27 and had issue (39) Margaret Elizabeth and (40) Cecily.

(39) Margaret Elizabeth b. 1898

(39) Margaret Elizabeth, daughter of William and Emily Bucknall was born in Norwood, London, S.E., in 1898. In 1925 she married the Rev. C.Kingsley-Williams and had issue (41) John Bucknall born 1927 (42) Michael born 1929 (43) Mary Margaret born 1933.

(40) Cecily Bucknall b. 1899

(40) Cecily, daughter of William and Emily Bucknall was born in Norwood, London, S.E. in 1899, about eighteen months after Margaret. In 1936 she adopted a girl called Hilary.

(32) Arthur Gibbs 1867

(32) Arthur Gibbs, second son of (14) William Bolger Gibbs was born on April 27th, 1867 at 5, Rock Terrace, Talfourd Road, Camberwell (or Peckham). Educated at Dulwich College, he became a Member of the Stock Exchange in 1889, when he was 22 years old.

(33) Alice Gaskell (née Gibbs) b. 1869

(33) Alice was born September 29th, 1869, at 5, Rock Terrace, Talfourd Road, Camberwell. On November 18th, 1905, she married John Berridge Gaskell, born April 3rd, 1866, the son of John Gaskell, who lived in Shipley, Yorkshire and who was a broker on the Leeds Stock Exchange. His mother was a Miss Berridge from Windsor whose forbears had had to do with the Royal Family, one of them having a post at Frogmore. At one time he worked with Sir Weetman Pearson, but left him to become Manager of the Milford Haven Estate for the National Provident Institution, which he did most successfully. His address was Clyst House, Milford Haven, and he died April 5th, 1925.

I remember him as a kind and generous man, with a rich but rather wheezy laugh. He was one of my first clients and had very neat handwriting.

(45) Florence Jessie Gibbs b. 1870s

(45) Florence Jessie Gibbs, daughter of John Gibbs (8), was born in Australia on ____ and
married firstly an American who died secondly she married Harvey who obtained a commission in the Coldstream Guards and was killed at Poelcapelle in 1917. She had no children by either husband. She is living (1937) at Dryden, Berkhamsted. [She is not on the picture]

(46) George Francis Gibbs b. 1870s

(46) George Francis Gibbs (known as Frank) [[not in picture, son of John Gibbs (8)] married Molly Green, and died in 1935. He had the following children:
(50) Basil George. i.e. George Basil, living at 270 West End Road, Ruislip in 1943
His mother was then living at Elm Trees, Leysdown. Isle of Sheppey.
(51) Philip Lionel.
(52) Margaret.
(53) Joan

(47) Alice Maud Gibbs b. 1870s

(47) Alice Maud Gibbs [not in picture, daughter of John Gibbs (8)] married Custance and is living (1937) at Keswick, Cuffley Hill Road, Cuffley. 1939. 50 Plough Hill, Cuffley.

(48) Edith Mabel Gibbs b.1879

(48) Edith Mabel Gibbs (known as Mabel) was born in 1879 and is living (December 1937) at 61, Brentham Way, Ealing, having retired a few years previously from school, teaching at Willesden. [Not in picture, daughter of John Gibbs (8)]

The Gibbs Family and the Stock Exchange

The Foundation Stone of the Stock Exchange in Capel Court (the residence of the Lord Mayor, Sir William Capel in 1504) was laid on May 18th, 1801, and in 1802 there were 551 Members. Prior to this, transactions in Stocks and Shares had taken place in various coffee houses in the City and later in the Rotunda at the Bank of England.

William Brewer my Great Great Grandfather (born about 1770, married Susanna Maria Bolger) was in the Bank of England through the influence of his father, whose firm Brewer and Smith used to make the metal frames for the watermarks on the Bank of England Notes, supplying these frames to Portals. I enquired from Portals if they could tell me any thing about the Brewer family, and on November 9th, 1937, they wrote to me in reply as follows:-

"In reply to your letter of the 4th instant, we are afraid there is little information we can give you about the Brewer family - They were very expert mould makers, and we have some specimens of watermark paper made by Messrs. "Brewer and Smith" in 1793 which is the earliest date on which their name is recorded. Our connection with them continued until 1863. We regret not being able to give you fuller information."

William Brewer used to deal in the Rotunda. We know little else about him, but his daughter Susanah (born 1800) married John Gibbs (born 1805) and one of their children was William Bolger Gibbs (born May 10th, 1834). William Brewer also had a son Edwin J.Brewer, who was a Member of the Stock Exchange from 1825 to 1847. Edwin lived at North Brixton, and in about 1839 went into the office of his Uncle, George Gibbs (Member 1836 - 1879), the firm being known later as George Gibbs & Son, the son being George Gibbs Junior, (Member 1868 - 1884) The firm were jobbers in the Consols Market.

In 1850 George Gibbs lived at 6,St.Marys Road, Peckham (or Camberwell) and in 1856 moved to No. 20, St.Marys Road. In 1884 his address was 240, Evering Road, Clapton.

John Gibbs's son, WILLIAM BOLGER GIBBS entered his Uncle's (George Gibbs) office in 1849 and became a Member of the Stock Exchange in 1855 when he was 21 years old.

W.B.Gibbs did not get on very well with his Uncle, and after a short time left him and jobbed on his own in the Consols Market. He used to deal in Red Sea Annuities, Navy Fives, New and Reduced, Cornish Mines etc. In the year 1869 - 70 he went into partnership with R.E.Tathan, forming the firm of Gibbs & Tatham.

W.B.Gibbs lived at the following addresses:
1851 - 60 1, Bower Place, Camberwell.
1860 - 64 Portland Terrace, Clapham Road.
1865 - 72 5 Rock Terrace, Talfourd Road, Camberwell. (or Peckham)
1872 - 76 13, The Gardens, Peckham Rye.
1877 - 90 Medina Villa, Knights Hill, Norwood.
1890 - 91 Moved to Thornton, Beulah Hill, Upper Norwood.

He died at Thornton, Beulah Hill, Upper Norwood, in 1925 in his ninety-second year, and is buried in West Norwood Cemetery in the same grave as his wife, Elizabeth, (nee Nutting) who died in 1898 and his son Godfrey Faussett, who died in 1899.

W.B.Gibbs, in his early days, used to ride to the City from Camberwell, and it is interesting to recall that in a book of Rules of the Stock Exchange dated 1848, that he used to have in his possession, Rule No2 read "Members must remove their spurs before entering the Stock Exchange".

William Gibbs, eldest son of William Bolger Gibbs, entered the firm of Gibbs & Tatham as a
clerk in 1879, when he was 17 years old, and became a Member of the Stock Exchange in August, 1883, when he was 21.
Ladd / Coffin family tree. Click to enlarge
Eliza and Marjorie Gibbs c. 1905. Barbar's handwriting.

Notes

Simon sent me six files:
Gibbs.jpg contains the large picture of the Gibbs family tree. I have added numbers to it which correspond to main numbers in the script.
Ladd.jpg a photo of the family tree showing ancestors of Eliza Ladd which goes back to revolutionaries in Rhode Island and Nicholas Coffin who died in 1613.
Gibbs Family Tree 1.pdf which also contains the Gibbs family tree.
Gibbs Family Tree 2.pdf which contains a rather higgledy-piggledy version of the Ladd family tree.
Gibbs Family Tree 3.pdf contains the script which is above.
Gibbs Family Tree 4.pdf contains the photo of Mrs Eliza Gibbs (née Ladd, wife of Arthur (32)) and her daughter Marjorie.

Simon has the nearest thing to originals of the family trees (A2 or larger) and script. They were probably photocopies made by Dad back in the day.

I surmise that the author of the script was my grandfather Arthur Gibbs writing in 1937 when according to Mum he had to give up work due to ill health*. At the end of the part on (14) William Bolger Gibbs the author writes "My boyhood memories of him", so the author is male. The next entry is (27) Elizabeth Nutting (Grandma Gibbs) so he was almost certainly a grandchild of that lady. He also writes "William Brewer my Great Great Grandfather".  That narrows it down to Arthur or Bryan. On (45) Florence Jessie Gibbs he writes "She is living (1937)", so it was written in 1937 when he had to retire. He is obviously very interested in the London Stock Exchange where he, and many of his ancestors, worked. I think that excludes Bryan. Also from the script, I conclude that William's father (3) John Gibbs married his niece (11) Susanah Brewer and then his housekeeper.

The Gibbs family tree is signed by Arthur in 1940.

*This is on page 11 of the_keeling_family_narrative_oct_2010.pdf which Tom compiled and put on the blog in 2010.

Hello Iris!

Tom Mati and Iris
Iris was born on 26 February 2020 to Mati and Tom. Congratulations!

Meeting of the clan

Second, third and fourth generations of Keelings and loved ones met on the internet yesterday the 4th April. Present were
Rob; George; Joe, Richard, Lizzie; Van, Jasper, Fred, Paul (Zak briefly);
David, Camilla; Arthur/Edward Tom, Siobhan, Flora, Imogen; Louise, Trevor; Simon
Poppy, Rob; Jim; AliceDulcie; Jude (Drew briefly);
Ruth; Harry; Trevor.

Cricket dinner at the Hub Saturday 11th July

Keeling supporters and team are invited by me, George, to the great pre-cricket match dinner at the Hub, a glamping* and meeting place very near Bodiam, on Saturday 11th July the evening before the match. Arrive about 7.30 eat at 8.

There will be a three course meal starting with surprise canapes and two further courses. As ever, please let me know if you are coming and what you would like to eat for the mains and pud. Here are the choices:

Main course


  • Broad bean, pea and lemon risotto (vegan) 
  • Parma wrapped chicken with a white wine and shallot sauce 
  • Beef in Burgundy with mushrooms and shallots in a puff pastry basket 
  • Baked sea bream with sauce vierge and roast cherry tomatoes 

Pud


  • Turkish delight Eton mess with fresh raspberries
  • Blackberry and apple crumble tarts with home made calvados ice cream
  • Avocado chocolate mousse
  • Lemon tart with caramelised blackberries and crème fraiche

Contact
Me: george.keeling@gmail.com or WhatsApp

The Hub
The Hub Quarry Farm, Bodiam, Robertsbridge TN32 5RA
https://www.thehubquarryfarm.co.uk/
email: info@thehubquarryfarm.co.uk
01580 830 932

*glamping = glamorous camping

*** The Hub might be a good place to stay. Book soon to avoid disappointment! ***

Jacobs farm photo albums: 1962 - 1966 JBK

Calm and Storm
Jacobs farm photo albums January 1962 - April 1966 by Granny.
People

Keelings: Dot, Jack,
Johnny Keelings: Johnny, Jocelyn, Nick Crean, John, Bill
Mike Keelings: Granny, Grandpa, Robert, Trevor, George, Simon, David, Tom, Jim, Paul
Brian Keelings: Bri, Biddy, Sara, Patrick
Hudsons; Loveday, Christopher
Palmers: Howard
Seitz: Herbert, Cally, Nico, Gisela, Werner, Magdalesa
Gibbs: Barbar, David, Jenny
Sturridges June, Jacky, Paul
Gaynors: Pat, Thyrza, Johnathan, Patrick
Woodward Fishers: Ann, Wiiiam, Charles
Suzanne and Esmond Sconce
Hyde Thompsons and Keeble Elliots
Henry Moser, Vera Smith, Fred Sinden, Tris Grayson, David Petri, Joan Oakes, Ronnie Bird, Jeremy Henson, Marcus & Georgina Irwin Brown

Places

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Family History

Tom sent these old stories which he had been told by Dad. Relationships are all from his viewpoint.

Grandpa (Sir John Keeling)

The first bit of luck for the Keeling family was that Grandpa was not posted to the Western Front during the first world war. He was part of a local County Regiment and was sent to Turkey in the Gallipoli campaign. After this military disaster / fiasco he returned home and joined the Grenadier Guards. In this role he was posted to guard the King and Queen at Windsor Castle, during which time it was his habit to ride a bicycle by way of transport.

The second bit of luck for the family was that one day as he was leaving the Castle he was knocked down by a bus and had his leg severely broken. This rendered him hors d’combat and he did not see any more active service. Fortunately the accident did not prevent him from making a pretty full recovery after time and he was able to play tennis and golf quite proficiently.

After the war Grandpa met the Finucane family and spotted the girls and got chatting with their Dad, Doctor Finucane. The Doctor advised Grandpa that he was a clever chap and that he should rent some office space in the City and put his nameplate on the outside of the front door. That way he would soon make some money! True enough, this advice proved worthwhile and Grandpa teamed up with Reg Cornwall and they soon found themselves in business together.

On one occasion they needed to provide funding for a particular business venture but were short of the necessary money. Then Grandpa got talking to a gentleman from Yorkshire who agreed to guarantee Grandpa’s overdraft to enable him to finance the aforementioned business deal. This led to a business relationship which drove Grandpa and Reg Cornwall to formalise their business, but they couldn’t decide whether to incorporate the business as Keeling & Cornwall or as Cornwall & Keeling. So they decided on The London & Yorkshire Trust and this was the beginning of a successful business story.

Reg Cornwall’s dad had been a manager at Nat West Bank. Reg was never the ambitious, cunning and clever man that Grandpa was and by the end of the second world war he had sold his interest in the L&YT to Grandpa.

Aged 29 or 30, Grandpa presented himself to the board of directors of Bowaters to say he believed he would be able to help them raise money to assist their business. The board was comprised of old farts, with the exception of Eric Bowater who was the same age as Grandpa. The belief that he could raise the money was based on discussions Grandpa had been having with stockbrokers, including Arthur Gibbs, who were prepared to follow Grandpa’s proposition to support Bowaters. The process would have involved some mechanism of issuing shares to generate funding.

The board of Bowaters welcomed this opportunity so Grandpa told them it would be available to them on the basis that they should meet one important condition. This was that Eric Bowater should be appointed as the Chairman and Managing Director of Bowaters and the directors accepted this condition. In return for this Eric appointed Grandpa as his deputy chairman and that was the beginning of an extremely fruitful business relationship and a lifelong friendship.

Gift from Eric to Grandpa "as a token of
friendship and appreciation"
Bowaters was a paper merchant and in fairly bad shape at the time of their first encounter with Grandpa, who had recently set up the London & Yorkshire Trust. This first meeting transformed their fortunes and also contributed significantly to the fortunes of LY&T. Eric was a very ambitious and driven man and he expanded the business to the USA from where it grew to be an international business of great proportions. By the time the business was at the zenith of its fortunes the business had moved its headquarters from Mayfair into premises which straddled the southern entrance to Hyde Park, opposite Knightsbridge.

Through the issue of preference shares to L&YT the Bowater Group paid dividends to L&YT for the duration of its existence and this was Grandpa’s biggest and most significant deal.

Eric Bowater went on to abandon his wife, who had become a good friend of Granny, which did not help matters, but also it did not derail the business side of things. Dad recalls that whenever Eric had a suit made he ordered three of them, so that he could keep one in each of his houses on both sides of the Atlantic.

Grandpa had a major stroke during a board meeting at L&YT in 1955, when he was sixty and he was never the same again after that. Because of this affliction he slipped out of the mainstream and his high profile in some circles of financing diminished from this time.

In 1938 the Australian cricket team was touring England and Grandpa had bought tickets for his family to watch their match at The Oval. Unfortunately Grandpa had a cold on that occasion and was deemed unfit to attend. As a consolation he was dispatched to Hawkhurst, to Reg Cornwall’s house to watch the match on TV. This would have been one of the earliest TV sets available at that time.

Dad recalled an occasion on which he was driving Grandpa from London to Hurst and they were crawling along behind a very long lorry laden with a Spitfire, with its wings packaged up in parallel to its fuselage. Dad spotted an opportunity to overtake and pulled out, but then had second thoughts. He recalls that Grandpa, barely looking up from the evening newspaper he was reading, simply said “Put your foot down”. Dad obeyed and overtook the lorry. At that time there was a lot less traffic on the roads than today.

Johnny Keeling (Dad's older brother)

Johnny Keeling had qualified as an accountant and joined the London & Yorkshire Trust and after a time there he suggested to Dad that he might join – because there were too many non-Keelings in the office. So Dad followed this suggestion and joined. Johnny was very brainy and had great mathematical skills, which were on a par with Grandpa. However he did not possess the same charm or skill to hold an audience as Grandpa. Also Johnny did not have the same ability as Dad to find that after sitting in a meeting with the directors of a company he had become the de facto chairman of the room by the time the meeting had ended.

However he did have the ability to pull the girls. On one occasion in the flat which Dad shared with Henry Hely-Hutchinson (Dad's best friend from Eton), they were sitting around and a girl called Robbie arrived who was extremely attractive and was simply a magnet to all the men there, including David Gibbs who was present. But Johnny was the one who took her out to dinner. Romance followed this and on one occasion when the Keeling family were on holiday in northern Italy, Johnny received a phone call informing him that Robbie had been involved in a serious car crash and her face was badly injured. Johnny flew home, leaving the family to continue their holiday. Robbie, an Australian, ended up back at home with Johnny visiting her and they were married there in a glamorous but non-church wedding.

After a ski-ing holiday together in Austria, where Robbie proved to be a superb ski-er and Johnny an indifferent one, Johnny found Robbie back in London with their Austrian ski guide, who said he had wanted a holiday in London…..Johnny was able to find a number of letters exchanged between Robbie and the guide which provided sufficient evidence to enable him to obtain a divorce from Robbie. Johnny then had the good fortune to of meeting Jocelyn Crean, nee Wenham and marrying her.

Dad (Michael Keeling)

Dad related his only two, pre-Mum, amorous encounters. On the first, during a war effort for agriculture, he was sent from Eton at the age of seventeen along with some other boys including Henry H-H and Peter Nissen to Piddletrenthide in Dorset. On this occasion HHH was clearly having a good time with the daughter of the owner of the house where they were staying and Dad was getting along well with the best friend of the daughter. At the end of their spell Dad and HHH were leaving and the daughter of the house offered to give Dad the address of her friend. But Dad declined and that was that.

About a year later Dad was posted to Germany as a young officer in the army with something like the Allied Liaison Bureau, which Johnny had helped to fix up for him. In the office where he worked there was a very beautiful German secretary who he asked out for a walk and that began a close friendship. But when he returned to England he quickly found that he could not remember her easily and after a couple of letters were exchanged between them he informed her he did not want to continue their relationship.

Then Barbar and Mum were invited to stay at Hurst and Dad arranged a ferreting session with Guy the gardener. Mum asked to join in and even though she was recovering from an appendicitis operation at the time she was very energetic while catching the rabbits in the nets which Guy had set over the rabbit holes. Dad was very impressed by this and, well the rest is history.

About five years after the ferreting weekend Granny and Grandpa had a niece visiting them in London, from Milwaukee (Grandpa’s side of the family) along with the boyfriend or husband of the niece and Granny asked Dad to take the visitors out to dinner. So Dad phoned Mum at Heals where she was working and suggested that she join the outing. Mum replied in her stuttering voice “I will not be taken for granted”. So Dad suggested that they meet for lunch in Oxford Street at a pub they both knew. He was doing an audit in Golden Square at the time. They met at the pub and sat on stools facing onto Oxford Street with Mum on Dad’s right hand side. They ordered some lunch and Dad said they should not go on like this and would Mum like to marry him. Mum looked at him and started to cry before saying “Yes”, and that was the beginning of a great marriage.

After lunch Dad went back to work via Grandpa’s office in Brook Street to let his Dad know the good news and they cracked a bottle of champagne in celebration of the occasion.

Great Uncle Edward (Grandpa’s older brother).

Uncle Edward might have had a rather sad life. At one stage he occupied a flat in Grosvenor House (not Grandpa’s), but which would have been provided by Grandpa. Dad said that when Edward told Dad about this situation he added “Dear Jack, he always seems to have enough money to help everyone”.

Aunty Cally (Dad's younger sister)

Cally went to school in St.Leonards and as a teenager was quite a handful. Granny and Grandpa sent her to a finishing school in Paris to polish her up, but not to much avail. So from there she found her way to Bavaria to stay with good friends of G & G called the von Huttens. The Dad, Nandel von Hutten, had been introduced to Grandpa by Tris Grayson and Nandel was Cally’s godfather. While staying with the von Huttens Cally met a local chap called Herbert Seitz and fell in love with him.

When Grandpa asked Nandel about Herbert, Nandel was a bit cautious and described the Seitz family as local tradesmen in the paint business, but certainly not aristocratic like us! Anyway Herbert and his parents were invited to stay at Hurst, which was probably a bit awkward because none of them spoke any English, so to help the weekend along, Dad invited Mum to join the party to act as an interpreter.

Subsequently Cally and Herbert were married in London.

Sir John Hanbury-Williams

John H-W worked at Courtaulds and was a very honourable and good chap, although Grandpa said he always missed a big opportunity by not exploiting the American market which would have been very lucrative. His daughters were Biddy and Bar, who were twins and there was a much younger brother. Biddy married Bri (Uncle Brian, Dad's younger brother) and was the mother of Sarah and Patrick.

Bri and Biddy lived in Astell Street, Chelsea for a while. Bri enjoyed the bottle more than he should have done and on one occasion he locked Biddy out of the house. Luckily the nanny heard her cries and let her back in.

John H-W gave Mum and Dad new curtains for a flat they had bought in Westbourne Grove. He admitted later that he had been rather shocked at their price and he had not realised what high ceilings the flat had!

Dr Morgan Finucane

Dr Finucane and his wife Jane lived in Fiji where he was the colonial doctor looking after the island’s inhabitants. Their oldest daughters Ruvé and Mo were born in Fiji. At the end of his appointment there he sailed home, Westwards, while his wife sailed home Eastwards across the Pacific to Vancouver. There she caught a train with her two little girls to New York and then took ship to England.

They settled at 10 Ashley Place, close to Westminster Cathedral and there Dot and Barbie were born. Mrs Finucane died before her husband and then he moved to Hurst and occupied ‘the batchelor’s room’ (a single room on the first floor). He died there in c1935 and Dad remembers being taken to see his corpse and being made to kiss the body by Granny!!

Ruvé (born 1894) – fell in love with an Australian soldier who returned home and set up with an Australian girl.
Mo – married Peter Petri.
Dorothy (born 1901) – married Jack Keeling.
Barbie – married Tris Grayson and their daughters are Mary Blaksley and Angie Drummond Brady.

The four Finucane sisters died in reverse order of their ages.

The early telephone

Dad recalls during the second World War Grandpa being woken by his bedside telephone at about 4am. It was the operator informing him that he should expect a call from Montreal imminently. That call duly arrived and it was some friends / business colleagues of his phoning to let him know that they were having a jolly good dinner! He explained that it was 4am in the morning in England and he was not very thrilled by their news. A few minutes later he received a third call, from the operator again, to ask him if he had received the international call satisfactorily…..

Rob in America

When Mum and Dad took Rob to the Mayo Clinic (west of Chicago) for his heart operation in 1961/62 they crossed the Atlantic in the Queen Mary, taking five days to reach New York. Aeroplanes would not have been taking passengers in those days[??]. Then they travelled to Chicago and took a train out to the Clinic. In New York they had stopped and stayed in a flat in the centre of the City which belonged to relations of Granny.

Mum and Dad’s honeymoon

When Mum and Dad went on their honeymoon they stayed in Rome for some of the time in Uncle Edward’s flat which he lent to them. He was in the Diplomatic Corps and he arranged an audience with the Pope for them. This was a day on which the Pope was scheduled to meet Italian farmers, but Uncle Edward got Mum and Dad in on the act.

Grandpa had arranged for a car of his to be taken by train out to Italy for Mum and Dad to use, but the car had got stuck in Genoa. Dad managed to have the car held there until they stopped there on their journey home, where they collected it and drove the rest of the way to England. 

Zilch: How to play Zilch


A few members of the family have been mystified by the references to Zilch and some have requested an explanation so I decided it was time to write down the rules of this excellent parlour game.

It was Camilla who introduced Zilch to the family and she learnt it on her honeymoon with David from a man called Bali Bill. There are variations on the rules which we will not further discuss.

These rules and examples are also available as a four page pdf here.

How to play

Start

The game is played with six ordinary dice by two to six people. Six is quite a lot and it usually gets out of hand with more. One of the players must be chosen as the scorer.

Each player takes it in turn to play and it is decided who starts by each player throwing just one dice and seeing who gets the highest number. The highest number starts. If two or more players get the same highest number, those players throw again until a starter is found. The game proceeds with the starter making a play. Once they have finished the next player on the left plays and so it goes found and round. It is important to note that every player gets the same number of plays.

In order to start scoring points a player must make 500 points in their first scoring play.

Middle: Plays, scoring

→ When a player plays they start by throwing all six dice.

⇒ Whenever a player throws (any number of dice) there are two possible outcomes:
1) The thrown dice get no points. That is Zilch. Their play ends, Z for Zilch is written against their score. They lose any score they made that play. The next player plays.
2) The dice thrown score some points. The player may then stop and their accumulated total for that play is added to their score; the next player plays. Or the player keeps some of the scoring dice and throws the remainder again. Often there is no choice of how many dice to keep.  The total scored so far is accumulated for that play. Now go back to ⇒ (with less dice to throw).

On step 2 above their may be no dice left. This is excellent. The player may start again with all six dice and continue to accumulate points for that play. (Go back to →).

Since a player must get a score of 500 or more in one play to get into the game they must throw relentlessly until that happens. This can cause numerous zilches at the start of the game.

If a player gets four zilches in a row 500 is deducted off their score. Subsequent consecutive zilches incur the same penalty of -500. With bad luck, it is quite possible to go seriously negative at the start of the game. I have seen -5000 and the player involved ended the whole game on a record breaking zero.

Scoring

You might be wondering how you do score points in this game. Here's the answer:



Thrown dice include
Points scored

·        One 1
100 (and two 1s scores 200 points)

·        One 5
50

·        Three of a kind
100×N where N is the number on the dice. So three 4s scores 400 points. But …

·        Three 1s
1000 (not 100 which would be very silly)

·        Three pairs
1000

·        A run (123456)
1000

Clearly throws including the last three are very desirable as are three 6s, three 5s and two sets of three of a kind.

Examples

You may want to cover up the answers to test yourself! They are written quite faintly on the right.

Thrown dice

Maximum score
Reason
235643

50
One 5
143575

200
One 1 and two 5s
321211

1000
Three 1s
542444

450
Three 4s =400 + one 5
255552

1000
Three pairs
231

100
One 1
364632

0=Z=zilch
Nothing scores
51

150
One 1 and one 5
532641

1000
A run
434334

700
Three 4s + three 3s
23226

200
Three 2s
131113

1100
Three 1s +one 1

Some of the examples are deliberately tricky, but it is easy to make an error in the excitement of the game. For example a throw like 255552 might easily be scored as 550 (for three 5s and the singleton 5). It is also quite easy to not see three pairs or a run. The last example, 131113, is interesting because one could also take 1000 points for the three pairs and then throw all six dice again. This is normally the better strategy.

When less than six dice are thrown, a run or three pairs are impossible.  When only one or two dice are thrown, three of a kind or three 1s are also impossible.

The dice that were previously thrown, whose score is 'in the bank', have no effect on the score of the thrown dice.

The scores should be laid out as shown to the right. There are four players Alice, Bob, Doris and Chris. Alice was the starter, chosen as described above, so her score is in the first column. The players were not sitting in alphabetical order round the table. She is not doing well, she has scored zilch five times in a row. Bob was next. He scored 700 in his first play, zilch in his second then 200, 800. Doris 1000, 200, Z, 500. Scores for each play are not recorded. It is easy to tell who must play last because the scores are laid out so neatly.
  
A
B
D
C
Z
700
1000
Z
Z
Z
Z
900
1200
Z
1300
1900
-500
1700
1700
3000
-1000








   

Here is an example of Alice's first play: She threw the six dice and got 146523. She kept the 1 and the 5 (worth 150) and threw the other four dice again. With those she got four 2s. She kept three of those bringing her total on that play to 350. She has one dice left and needs 150 points to get into the game with 500. She throws it and it's a 1! She now has 450 and can throw all six again. But then she threw 364632 which is no points so she lost all her score that play and got Zilch. On Alice's fifth play she got zilch again so another 500 was deducted.

Alice must throw more than 500 in one play to get going on the right direction. If she got exactly 1000 in her sixth play 0 not Z would be put in her score. Z would be wrong and confusing.

Doris threw three 1's as her first throw and wisely stopped. 1000 went in her score and she was in the game. Next time round (after all the others got zilch) she threw 153562 and kept the score of 200. She probably would have been better to keep the 1 and throw five dice again.

End

As stated above every player gets the same number of plays. The game ends when a player's score gets to 10,000 or more. We'll call that person Bob. When that happens any other players who have not had as many plays as Bob get one last chance to equal or overtake Bob. So that's Doris and Chris in our example. If Doris succeeded she would be declared the winner (unless Chris overtook her on the last play of the game.)

Tactics and Etiquette

  • If in a throw any dice fall off the table or are cocked (leaning at an angle due to other dice or some other obstacle) all the thrown dice must be thrown again.
  • It's important not to get zilch in a play but also important to get a decent score. Therein lies the tension in each play and the judgement required.
  • After any throw is made, nobody should touch the dice until a few players (particularly the scorer) have seen them all. Moving them around may be considered cheating. Peter ✠ used to wrap his arms around his thrown dice so only he could see them. This was banned.
  • It may be best not to comment after a throw is made. The player may fail to spot a good score. There is no need to tell them (until it's too late). On the other hand you may innocently call a run a 100 and see if the player falls for your trap. Camilla says this is unsporting.
  • Consider the scorer. They not only have to play but they have to add up everybody else's score. In particular do not start a new play until the scorer has written down the score from the last play.
  • If you’re in Bali and Chris wins, for the next game someone will make him go and get the next round of drinks. While he’s away from the table they’ll move to sit in his place because they believe the seat is affecting his luck – and they want it!
  • Cheating: It is surprisingly easy to cheat if all the players are discussing the latest gossip or otherwise entertained. A cheat may slyly turn over a dice as they are 'rearranging' a throw. If all the other players are really being so inattentive it serves them right. Be warned, be attentive and devise a punishment if a cheater persists.

The Zilch Odds Table

We all know that the odds of getting a 1 with one dice is 1 in 6 = 1/6 = 17%. What are the odds (the probability) of getting a 1 with six dice? They aren't six times the odds of getting a 1 with one dice. That would be 100% - a dead cert. Here is a little table with some useful probabilities.

Zilch Odds Table
Throwing dice
Probability of
1 or 5

zilch

three 1s
three of a kind
three pairs

run
6
91%
2.5%
6%
36%
5%
1.5%
5
87%
16%
4%
21%
0
0
4
80%
10%
2%
10%
0
0
3
70%
27%
.5%
3%
0
0
2
56%
44%
0
0
0
0
1
33%
67%
0
0
0
0

Notes:
1) Does not help much with calculating the odds of getting over 2000 in a play.
2) Not guaranteed correct.
3) These are all calculated at the end of the page here. (The first three zilch odds which were done with a simulator.) All the others were checked by said simulator which gave the same answer.

By George, November 2019 with thanks to David and Camilla who checked this for me (and also told me that the rules I had been using were wrong).